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Papia of Normandy

Name
Papia of /Normandy/
Surname
Normandy
Given names
Papia of
Family with parents
father
mother
herself
Father’s family with Judith of Brittany
father
father’s partner
half-brother
half-brother
9991035
Birth: 999 37 17 Normandy
Death: 2 July 1035Nicea, Bthyn, Turkey
Family with Gulbert deSt.Valery
partner
Gulbert deSt.Valery
herself
son
Death of a father
Death of a half-brother
Death of a half-brother
Unique identifier
E3EC648372668740986605F6E83AE760B755
Last change
23 January 200719:13:58
Note

Notes
Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (177:3) calls her "N., said to be Papia,illeg. dau. of RICHARD I, DUKE OF NORMANDY. However. . .
"Todd A. Farmerie" posted to
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L-request@rootsweb.com on 12 Feb 1998
Subject: Re: Weis Question
"So Richard, fl.1053 married the daughter of Richard d.996? Possible, butunlikely. It looks like AR7 has made at least one error here. It wasGulbert/Gilbert who married Papia, the daughter of Duke Richard. Next weask, which Duke Richard? ES says she was illegitimate daughter of RichardI, but more traditionally, she has been shown as daughter of Richard II.In a recent work by Thierry Stasser, he gives a complete accounting ofthe children of Richard II, and includes Papia, wife of Gilbert as adaughter of Richard by his second wife, Papia."

and expanding on Todd Farmerie's onservations. . .
abwilson@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Alan B. Wilson)
posted to GEN-MEDIEVAL-L-request@rootsweb.com on 12 Feb 1998
Subject: Re: Weis Question:
"ES ii, 79 shows Papia as daughter of Richard II and his third wife,Poppa. Richard II had married secondly, and divorced, Astrid of Denmark.Interestingly Turton, p. 178, also shows Papia of Normandy, wife ofGilbert de St. Valerie, as daughter of Richard II. It is Eleanor Searle(perhaps among others) who in "Predatory kinship and the creation ofNorman power, 840-1066", Table 2, p. 255, has Gulbert of St. Valerymarried to an unnamed illegitimate daughter of Richard I."