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Gilbert deLacy, 1163

Name
Gilbert /deLacy/
Surname
deLacy
Given names
Gilbert
Family with parents
mother
himself
sister
Sybil deLacy
Family with Agnes
himself
partner
son
11151186
Birth: about 1115 Ewias Lacy, England
Death: 1186
Death of a maternal grandfather
Birth of a son
Death
Unique identifier
A24AD0397BAEC746ACE1C463783B32F2B62A
Last change
23 January 200719:13:58
Note

Notes
The parentage of Gilbert is a matter of debate.
W E Wightman, in "The Lacy Family in England and Normandy,1066-1194", onthe genealogical chart following p 260, shows Gilbert as a son (mostsources leaning this way say illigitimate) of Hugh de Lacy (EMMA'sbrother).

The names of two sisters of Hugh - EMMA and Agnes - have been proposed asGilbert's mother. One Gilbert Talbot has been proposed as his father.

Gerard Lacey, probably the most knowledgeble researcher active as thistime (i.e. Feb 1998) and author of the 1994 book, "The Legacy of the DeLacy, Lacey, Lacy Family 1066-1994", has this to say about the matter inprivate correspondence dated 31 Jan 1998:
"Speaking of conundrums: Wightman states that Gilbert de Lacy. 4th Lordof Meath and father of HUGH DE LACY 5th baron, was the son of Roger deLacy, and accompanied Roger on the latter's banishment in 1096 andGilbert returned to accept Hereford on the demise of Hugh brother ofRoger. That could be , but the enclosed chart of the Cromwellbottom Lacysclaims Gilbert de Lacy, to be the illegitlmate son of Robert de Lascy ofPontefract (d 1193) [RIN 2816*], The latter contention is difflcult toreconcile because KING HENRY I, (the CONQUERER's youngest) reigned1100-1135. Originally I quoted Giraldus Cambrensis who contended thatGilbert de Lacy is the son of EMMA, sister of Roger and Hugh. EMMAmarried Geoffrey de Talbot (also a major family on Roll of
Battle Abbey). Their child Sybil de Lacy m Pain FitzJohn.
CHRONICLES OF ST. PETER GLOUCESTER: 15-17, 92: HENRY I, took Lacy landsinto his own hands. Gilbert, son of Hugh's sister, EMMA assumed the nameof Lacy and claimed to represent the Lacys (Florence of Worcester EnglishHistorical Society also Burke's Extinct Peerage pg 310). The aboveconcurs with Giraldus Cambrensis' offhand comment that Gilbert was son ofRoger's sister. Roger had been banished in 1096; brother Hugh
died 1115; Walter was Abbott of Gloucester There was no Lacy present tofill the temporary void until Gilbert came forth to salvage the Lacylands. Because Gilbert was Payn Fitzjohn's sonmand Payn was KING HENRY'sChamberlain, who THE KING liked. Gilbert succeeded in saving the landedestates of the Lacys. "