Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of Essex 1157–1213 – Whos Your Daddy? Wikigenealogy

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Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of Essex, 1157–1213 (aged 56 years)

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Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of Essex

Name: Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of /Essex/
Surname: Essex
Given names: Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of

Sex Male

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Family with parents
father	Links Death: before 1198 Unique identifier: 838A2199D400B946A4C2910C16A41CE558EA Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse … Maud Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of Essex Piers Lutegareshale …–1198 Death: before 1198
mother	Links Unique identifier: 838A2199D400B946A4C2910C16A41CE558EA Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Piers Lutegareshale Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of Essex … Maud …–…
himself	Links Birth: about 1157 — Northhampton, England Marriage: before 30 May 1205 Death: 14 October 1213 — Walden, Essex Unique identifier: 45F2763CFCD8EF419047D93433503C9F2F13 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Aveline deClare John FitzGeoffrey Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of Essex 1157–1213 Birth: about 1157 — Northhampton, England Death: 14 October 1213 — Walden, Essex

Family with Aveline deClare
himself	Links Birth: about 1157 — Northhampton, England Marriage: before 30 May 1205 Death: 14 October 1213 — Walden, Essex Unique identifier: 45F2763CFCD8EF419047D93433503C9F2F13 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Aveline deClare John FitzGeoffrey Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of Essex 1157–1213 Birth: about 1157 — Northhampton, England Death: 14 October 1213 — Walden, Essex
wife	Links Birth: 1172 56 45 Marriage: before 30 May 1205 Death: 1225 Unique identifier: 45F2763CFCD8EF419047D93433503C9F2F13 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Geoffrey FitzPiers Earl of Essex John FitzGeoffrey Aveline deClare 1172–1225 Birth: 1172 56 45 Death: 1225
Marriage	Marriage — before 30 May 1205 —
9 years son	Links Birth: about 1213 56 41 Marriage: before 12 April 1234 Death: 23 November 1258 Unique identifier: F8FF6408F1B7EE458F61AF875ACBB82F7077 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Isabel Bigod Maud FitzJohn Isabell FitzJohn Joan FitzJohn John FitzGeoffrey 1213–1258 Birth: about 1213 56 41 Death: 23 November 1258

Events of close relatives
Birth	about 1157 Northhampton, England
Death of a father	Piers Lutegareshale before 1198
Marriage	Aveline deClare — View this family before 30 May 1205 (aged 48 years)
Birth of a son	John FitzGeoffrey about 1213
Death	14 October 1213 (aged 56 years) Walden, Essex
Unique identifier	915E9E2FCADC5E4680B27A412066AD749A26
Last change	23 January 2007 – 19:13:57

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Note	Notes Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (246B:27), (246C:27), he was Earl ofEssex by right of his first wife and was Justiciar of England 1198-1213. Also mentioned (72:29), (97:27). Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Essex, pp. 122-125). He was a Justice ofthe Forest 1185-1189, sheriff at various times of of Northants, Essex,Herts, Staffordshire, Yorkshire, Westmoreland, Bedford, and Bucks. In1198 he defeated the Welsh at Castle Maud. Along with Archbishop Hubertand WILLIAM MARSHAL, EARL OF PEMBROKE (RIN 806), he persuaded the magnates to swear fealty to KING JOHN (RIN 785). "Todd A. Farmerie" posted to the soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup on 2 Jul 1996 : Subject: MANDEVILLE/Earldom of Essex descent The two most recent editions of the Weis books (MCS4 and ARCC7) showGeoffrey Fitz Piers, Earl of Essex as son of Maud de Mandeville, daughterof Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex. I suspect that the derivationof this claim is a misreading of a table in CP, vol. 5 (Essex), where theparents of Fitz Piers, Piers and Maud (as well as Maud's other husband),are placed under the horizontal line connecting the children of Geoffreyde Mandeville, but without a verticle connection to that line. (In otherwords, they were tucked in there for the sake of spacial layout, withoutintending to suggest a relationship.) The accepted and documented descent of the Earldom of Essex to GeoffreyFitz Piers runs through his first wife, Beatrice de Say, who wasgranddaughter of Beatrice, sister of Geoffrey de Mandeville. That thisdescent was the determining factor in the grant of Essex to Geoffrey FitzPiers can be seen from the passing of Essex to de Bohun following thedeath of the sons of Geoffrey Fitz Piers and Beatrice de Say, bypassingGeoffrey's heir male, John Fitz Geoffrey, son by his second wife Avelinade Clare. Were there a "better" descent from Mandeville through themother of Geoffrey Fitz Piers, then John Fitz Geoffrey surely would havebeen the heir. Based on this, I do not think Maud, mother of GeoffreyFitz Piers could have been daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville.

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Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (246B:27), (246C:27), he was Earl ofEssex by right of his first wife and was Justiciar of England 1198-1213.
Also mentioned (72:29), (97:27).
Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Essex, pp. 122-125). He was a Justice ofthe Forest 1185-1189, sheriff at various times of of Northants, Essex,Herts, Staffordshire, Yorkshire, Westmoreland, Bedford, and Bucks. In1198 he defeated the Welsh at Castle Maud. Along with Archbishop Hubertand WILLIAM MARSHAL, EARL OF PEMBROKE (RIN 806), he
persuaded the magnates to swear fealty to KING JOHN (RIN 785).

"Todd A. Farmerie" posted to the
soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup on 2 Jul 1996 :
Subject: MANDEVILLE/Earldom of Essex descent
The two most recent editions of the Weis books (MCS4 and ARCC7) showGeoffrey Fitz Piers, Earl of Essex as son of Maud de Mandeville, daughterof Geoffrey de Mandeville, Earl of Essex. I suspect that the derivationof this claim is a misreading of a table in CP, vol. 5 (Essex), where theparents of Fitz Piers, Piers and Maud (as well as Maud's other husband),are placed under the horizontal line connecting the children of Geoffreyde Mandeville, but without a verticle connection to that line. (In otherwords, they were tucked in there for the sake of spacial layout, withoutintending to suggest a relationship.)
The accepted and documented descent of the Earldom of Essex to GeoffreyFitz Piers runs through his first wife, Beatrice de Say, who wasgranddaughter of Beatrice, sister of Geoffrey de Mandeville. That thisdescent was the determining factor in the grant of Essex to Geoffrey FitzPiers can be seen from the passing of Essex to de Bohun following thedeath of the sons of Geoffrey Fitz Piers and Beatrice de Say, bypassingGeoffrey's heir male, John Fitz Geoffrey, son by his second wife Avelinade Clare. Were there a "better" descent from Mandeville through themother of Geoffrey Fitz Piers, then John Fitz Geoffrey surely would havebeen the heir. Based on this, I do not think Maud, mother of GeoffreyFitz Piers could have been daughter of Geoffrey de Mandeville.