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Ermengarde of Provence

Name
Ermengarde of /Provence/
Surname
Provence
Given names
Ermengarde of
Family with parents
father
herself
younger sister
Father’s family with Ermengarde of Italy
father
stepmother
Marriage Marriage876
3 years
half-brother
half-sister
Family with BerilloI Viscount of Vienne
partner
herself
son
Family with Manasses Count of Chalon
partner
herself
son
daughter
Marriage of a parent
Birth of a half-brother
Death of a paternal grandmother
Death of a father
Birth of a son
Death of a husband
Death of a sister
Death of a daughter
Death of a half-brother
Death of a son
Unique identifier
7BA5020380853D468094154D26794B8F9C60
Last change
23 January 200719:13:57
Note

Notes
This generation and the following one, which link BOSO, COUNT OF VIENNE(RIN 2137) with GERBERGA, wife of FULK II, COUNT OF ANJOU (RIN 1248) arefrom an essay by Bernard S. Bachrach on the orgins of the countessGerberga included in his 1995 collection, "Studies in Early AngevinHistory".

Stuart's "Royalty for Commoners" (258:38) identifies the wife of MANASSESand mother of GISELBERT as "Ermengarde, princess of Burgundy; d. 12 Apr935; prob. dau. of BOSO, KING OF BURGUNDY [sic. KING OF PROVENCE (RIN2137)]."

Settipani's "La prehistoire des Capetiens" identifies her father as thissame BOSO (RIN 2137).

Matman posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 20 May 1997 (in part):
Subject: Re: Wife of Manassas I, C. of Chalon
"Giselbert appears with his mother Ermengarde (I) in a charter of 924. Idon't think she died in 935, but she was dead by then. Some of theconfusion undoubtedly comes from the fact that GISELBERTs wife was alsocalled ERMENGARDE (II) in a charter of 942, which also names theirdaughter ADELAIDE. No document or source says who the fathers of thesedifferent Ermengarde's were. But some have speculated that the nameErmengarde was introduced into these families by the marriage of BOSO toERMENGARDE OF ITALY [RIN 2138] (dau. of LOUIS II [RIN 2139], whose mumwas ERMENGARDE d.851). Thus some see Ermengarde (I) as a dau of BOSO OFPROVENCE (d.887), therefore grand-dau of BUVINUS COUNT OF METZ [RIN 4258](and I think this theory can be found somewhere in the ES).
A old view was that Ermengarde (II) was the daughter of RICHARD THEJUSTICIAR [RIN 1238] (d.921) brother of BOSO: this was followed byMckitterick in her book on the Carolingians (1983). But there have beenother theories as well. The ES is not much help on this as it tends toplonk the various (often contradictory) theories down in differentvolumes, without any explanation. I wonder what Settipani says?
I think some have noted that there is yet another Ermengarde (III) whoappears as the first wife of Leotold of Macon and Besancon in the charterof 935 (Cluny 432): she was a daughter of Manasses I and sister ofGISELBERT (C.Bouchard 'Sword and Mitre')."