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… Bivin, 810–863 (aged 53 years)

Name

… Bivin

Name: /Bivin/
Surname: Bivin

Sex Male

Date differences

Family with parents
father	Links Death: after 814 Unique identifier: E433036460D3154F9A0536A74A46C679601E Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse … Bivin unknown of Amiens RichardII Count of Amiens …–814 Death: after 814
himself	Links Birth: about 810 Death: 863 Unique identifier: E7148B691DC8B94A8A68B4285578F8BE28E5 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Richilda of Arles Richard the Justiciar Duke of Burgundy BosoI King of Provence Richilde of Metz … Bivin 810–863 Birth: about 810 Death: 863
sister	Links Unique identifier: 9F60B83CF83A2E4D8F2EA1055E4CE7A438B2 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse ThieryI the Treasurer Count of Chalon ThierryII Count of Chalon Richard of Burgundy unknown of Amiens …–…

Family with Richilda of Arles
himself	Links Birth: about 810 Death: 863 Unique identifier: E7148B691DC8B94A8A68B4285578F8BE28E5 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Richilda of Arles Richard the Justiciar Duke of Burgundy BosoI King of Provence Richilde of Metz … Bivin 810–863 Birth: about 810 Death: 863
partner	Links Death: 883 Unique identifier: E7148B691DC8B94A8A68B4285578F8BE28E5 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse … Bivin Richard the Justiciar Duke of Burgundy BosoI King of Provence Richilde of Metz Richilda of Arles …–883 Death: 883
son	Links Birth: about 845 35 Marriage: 888 Death: 1 September 921 — Aurerre Unique identifier: 030C5972E486F049A15C50D9E47B90F385AC Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Adelaide of Burgundy AdelaideII of Burgundy Willa of Burgundy Richilde Burgundy Richard the Justiciar Duke of Burgundy 845–921 Birth: about 845 35 Death: 1 September 921 — Aurerre
-4 years son	Links Birth: about 840 30 Unique identifier: C25A1C39F74D0D47838A7BEB5AA101DA5235 Marriage: 876 Death: 11 January 886 Unique identifier: 2C72E1364442E940A482526228275FE0CC11 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Ermengarde of Provence Willa of Provence Family with spouse Ermengarde of Italy Louis the Blind King of Italy Engelberga of Provence BosoI King of Provence 840–886 Birth: about 840 30 Death: 11 January 886
daughter	Links Marriage: 25 November 870 Death: between 910 and 914 Unique identifier: DEEAA7427624394B9572656B4E75224CD765 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse CharlesII the Bald King of France Rothaut of France Richilde of Metz …–914 Death: between 910 and 914

Events of close relatives
Birth	about 810
Death of a father	RichardII Count of Amiens after 814
Birth of a son	BosoI King of Provence about 840
Birth of a son	Richard the Justiciar Duke of Burgundy about 845
Death	863 (aged 53 years)
Unique identifier	05FB4AB473CB174794BC433F9026950FC633
Last change	23 January 2007 – 19:13:57

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Note	Notes Settipani's "La prehistoire des Capetiens". Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (49:16). Stuart's "Royalty for Commoners (206:39) calls him Budwine, Count ofItaly & Metz, Lay Abbot of Gorze. Stewart Baldwin posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 1 Nov 1996 (in part): Subject: Re: SAVOY "See Settipani, pp. 388ff. Settipani conjectures that Bivin was adescendant in the direct male line of Hieronymus, son of Charles Martel,but none of the intervening generations is proven." Sewart Baldwin posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 10 Nov 1996 (in part): Subject: Re: Will the real Boso please stand up (was Re: SAVOY) "That King Boso was the son of count Bivin [or Budwine] is proven by thecontemporary "Annals Bertiniani" ("Annals of St. Bertin" in English),under the year 869, where Boso is explicitly called a son of Bivin.Boso's maternal grandfather was another Boso, an Italian count. It wasthis Italian Boso who was the father-in-law of Lothar II and Bivin." . .. "The confusion that has led some to make Theodoric [Thierry I "theTreasurer" (RIN 1240)] the father of Boso [King of Provence (RIN 2137)]is briefly discussed by Settipani. Here is the short version. Theodoricdid have a son named Richard [RIN 3473], who has been erroneously identified by some with duke Richard of Burgundy (King Boso's brother)[i.e. RICHARD THE JUSTICIAR (RIN 1238)], and this erroneousidentification has led to Boso being incorrectly called the son ofTheodoric."

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Settipani's "La prehistoire des Capetiens".
Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (49:16).
Stuart's "Royalty for Commoners (206:39) calls him Budwine, Count ofItaly & Metz, Lay Abbot of Gorze.
Stewart Baldwin posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 1 Nov 1996 (in part):
Subject: Re: SAVOY
"See Settipani, pp. 388ff. Settipani conjectures that Bivin was adescendant in the direct male line of Hieronymus, son of Charles Martel,but none of the intervening generations is proven."
Sewart Baldwin posted to soc.genealogy.medieval on 10 Nov 1996 (in part):
Subject: Re: Will the real Boso please stand up (was Re: SAVOY)
"That King Boso was the son of count Bivin [or Budwine] is proven by thecontemporary "Annals Bertiniani" ("Annals of St. Bertin" in English),under the year 869, where Boso is explicitly called a son of Bivin.Boso's maternal grandfather was another Boso, an Italian count. It wasthis Italian Boso who was the father-in-law of Lothar II and Bivin." . ..
"The confusion that has led some to make Theodoric [Thierry I "theTreasurer" (RIN 1240)] the father of Boso [King of Provence (RIN 2137)]is briefly discussed by Settipani. Here is the short version. Theodoricdid have a son named Richard [RIN 3473], who has been erroneously
identified by some with duke Richard of Burgundy (King Boso's brother)[i.e. RICHARD THE JUSTICIAR (RIN 1238)], and this erroneousidentification has led to Boso being incorrectly called the son ofTheodoric."