Robert Fortis Duke of Neustria 820–866 – Whos Your Daddy? Wikigenealogy

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Robert Fortis Duke of Neustria, 820–866 (aged 46 years)

Name

Robert Fortis Duke of Neustria

Name: Robert Fortis Duke of /Neustria/
Surname: Neustria
Given names: Robert Fortis Duke of

Sex Male

Date differences

Family with parents
father	Links Marriage: about 808 Death: about 834 Unique identifier: 912F796696787249A354FF3EA29820483E3E Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse … Wiadruth Robert Fortis Duke of Neustria RobertIII Count in Wormgau …–834 Death: about 834
mother	Links Marriage: about 808 Unique identifier: 912F796696787249A354FF3EA29820483E3E Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse RobertIII Count in Wormgau Robert Fortis Duke of Neustria … Wiadruth …–…
Marriage	Marriage — about 808 —
13 years himself	Links Birth: 820 — West Franks Death: 25 August 866 — Anjou, France Burial: 43 Unique identifier: 25EF600862E0E54F9478D7F24A2E965D32D1 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Adelaide of Tours RobertI King of France … Bertha … Eudes … Richard … Richildes Robert Fortis Duke of Neustria 820–866 Birth: 820 — West Franks Death: 25 August 866 — Anjou, France

Family with Adelaide of Tours
himself	Links Birth: 820 — West Franks Death: 25 August 866 — Anjou, France Burial: 43 Unique identifier: 25EF600862E0E54F9478D7F24A2E965D32D1 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Adelaide of Tours RobertI King of France … Bertha … Eudes … Richard … Richildes Robert Fortis Duke of Neustria 820–866 Birth: 820 — West Franks Death: 25 August 866 — Anjou, France
partner	Links Birth: about 819 Birth: 824 — Tours, France Death: about 866 Death: after 1 July 876 Burial: 43 Unique identifier: 25EF600862E0E54F9478D7F24A2E965D32D1 Unique identifier: 1245E40BBA259F41937B6917B995FED3B250 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Robert Fortis Duke of Neustria RobertI King of France … Bertha … Eudes … Richard … Richildes Family with spouse ConradI Count of Auxerre ConradII Count of Auxerre WelfI Count of Argengau Adelaide of Tours 819–866 Birth: about 819 Death: about 866
son	Links Birth: 866 46 47 Birth: 866 46 47 — Bourgogne, France Death: 15 June 923 — Soissons, France Burial: 41 Unique identifier: 862BE6979DDB084BA95E5C8B8C281FAA6425 Unique identifier: 60799F574AFF9F489D7A3A50BEF53A1AA7EE Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Beatrice deVermandois Hugh the Great Count of Paris Family with spouse … Aelis Adela of Paris Emma Hildebrande RobertI King of France 866–923 Birth: 866 46 47 Death: 15 June 923 — Soissons, France
-3 years daughter	Links Birth: about 862 42 43 Burial: 42 Unique identifier: 7ABF60930F94874CAE10419661EDE6D843CD Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse HerbertI Count Vermandois Beatrice deVermandois HerbertII Count Vermandois Adela deVermandois Odo deVermandois Hugo deVermandois … Bertha 862–… Birth: about 862 42 43 Burial: 42
-3 years daughter	Links Birth: about 858 38 39 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships … Eudes 858–… Birth: about 858 38 39
7 years son	Links Birth: about 864 44 45 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships … Richard 864–… Birth: about 864 44 45
3 years daughter	Links Birth: 866 46 47 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships … Richildes 866–… Birth: 866 46 47

ConradI Count of Auxerre + Adelaide of Tours
partner’s partner	Links Death: 862 Unique identifier: 1245E40BBA259F41937B6917B995FED3B250 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Adelaide of Tours ConradII Count of Auxerre WelfI Count of Argengau ConradI Count of Auxerre …–862 Death: 862
partner	Links Birth: about 819 Birth: 824 — Tours, France Death: about 866 Death: after 1 July 876 Burial: 43 Unique identifier: 25EF600862E0E54F9478D7F24A2E965D32D1 Unique identifier: 1245E40BBA259F41937B6917B995FED3B250 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Robert Fortis Duke of Neustria RobertI King of France … Bertha … Eudes … Richard … Richildes Family with spouse ConradI Count of Auxerre ConradII Count of Auxerre WelfI Count of Argengau Adelaide of Tours 819–866 Birth: about 819 Death: about 866
partner’s son	Links Birth: 825 6 Death: about 871 Death: 881 Unique identifier: EA60BA64DF007941AD455AD0989D3737C04A Unique identifier: 1003629D44D30245BB5001B8CB83E36FD4D4 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse … Waldrada Adelaide of Burgundy Rudolph King of Burgundy Family with spouse Ermentrude of Alsace Rudolph King of Burgundy Adelaide of Burgundy Ansgarde of Burgundy ConradII Count of Auxerre 825–881 Birth: 825 6 Death: 881
partner’s son	Links Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships WelfI Count of Argengau …–…

Events of close relatives
Birth	820 West Franks
Death of a father	RobertIII Count in Wormgau about 834
Birth of a daughter	… Eudes about 858
Birth of a daughter	… Bertha about 862
Birth of a son	… Richard about 864
Birth of a son	RobertI King of France 866
Birth of a son	RobertI King of France 866 Bourgogne, France
Birth of a daughter	… Richildes 866
Death of a wife	Adelaide of Tours about 866
Death	25 August 866 (aged 46 years) Anjou, France
Burial	43
Unique identifier	C57249F3FFDCCC49B7E0752F4C18FCB5B3EA
Last change	23 January 2007 – 19:13:57

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Note	Notes His ancestry is a matter of hot dispute. The only nearly contemporarysource on the matter is Richer, who stated in the 10th century thatRobert's father was "Witichin". The genealogy from the "Dictionary of Royal Lineage" has Robert's fatherTheotbert, Count of Autun (RIN 3461). Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . .", which reflects a more recent opinion hashis pedigree as I've shown it here. (48:17), (181:6), calls him RutpertIV, Count in Wormgau; of Anjou, Blois, Tours, Auxerre, and Nevers; killed 15Sep 866. Richard Borthwick posted to the soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup on 23Oct 1996 (in part): Subject: Re: Ancestors of the Capetiens The matter was one of great debate but quite some time ago. The crucialstudy was done by K Glockner "Lorsch und Lothringen" in Zeitschrift furdie Geschichte des Oberrheins, 89, 1936/37, 301-54. The identificationof Rutpert IV count in the Oberrheingau with Robert count of Paris is nowconsidered most likely. Robert like many other Lotharingian nobles entered the service of Charles the Bald in 852following territorial squabbles between Charles and his brothers. You mayfind an article by K F Werner helpful: "Noble Families in Charlemagne'sKingdom" in a collection of papers entitled The Medieval Nobilityedited and translated by Timothy Reuter (1979), 172 f. Fransisco Antonio Doria posted to the soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup on12 Jul 1998 (in part): Subject: Re: Who did Herbert I de Vermandois Marry? Recently (1989) Luiz de Mello Vaz de Sampayo suggested in a well-arguedpaper that Richer's "Witichinus" hypothesis (Witichinus as father ofRobert le Fort) may stand on solid ground. He takes Witichinus asWittchen - Little Witus, or better as Witus (Guido) the Young. He still plugs thewhole family into Gloeckner's Robertini but from a side branch. Somereasonable onomastics support his claim. (Raizes & Trofeus, no. 2.)

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His ancestry is a matter of hot dispute. The only nearly contemporarysource on the matter is Richer, who stated in the 10th century thatRobert's father was "Witichin".
The genealogy from the "Dictionary of Royal Lineage" has Robert's fatherTheotbert, Count of Autun (RIN 3461).
Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . .", which reflects a more recent opinion hashis pedigree as I've shown it here. (48:17), (181:6), calls him RutpertIV,
Count in Wormgau; of Anjou, Blois, Tours, Auxerre, and Nevers; killed 15Sep 866.
Richard Borthwick posted to the soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup on 23Oct 1996 (in part):
Subject: Re: Ancestors of the Capetiens
The matter was one of great debate but quite some time ago. The crucialstudy was done by K Glockner "Lorsch und Lothringen" in Zeitschrift furdie Geschichte des Oberrheins, 89, 1936/37, 301-54. The identificationof Rutpert IV count in the Oberrheingau with Robert count of Paris is nowconsidered most likely. Robert like many other
Lotharingian nobles entered the service of Charles the Bald in 852following territorial squabbles between Charles and his brothers. You mayfind an article by K F Werner helpful: "Noble Families in Charlemagne'sKingdom" in a collection of papers entitled The Medieval Nobilityedited and translated by Timothy Reuter (1979), 172 f.
Fransisco Antonio Doria posted to the soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup on12 Jul 1998 (in part):
Subject: Re: Who did Herbert I de Vermandois Marry?
Recently (1989) Luiz de Mello Vaz de Sampayo suggested in a well-arguedpaper that Richer's "Witichinus" hypothesis (Witichinus as father ofRobert le Fort) may stand on solid ground. He takes Witichinus asWittchen -
Little Witus, or better as Witus (Guido) the Young. He still plugs thewhole family into Gloeckner's Robertini but from a side branch. Somereasonable onomastics support his claim. (Raizes & Trofeus, no. 2.)