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James Pennill, 18331909 (aged 76 years)

Name
James /Pennill/
Given names
James
Surname
Pennill
Also known as
/Pennill/
Family with parents
father
18091866
Birth: 5 October 1809 29 29 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: 7 April 1866Manchester, Lancashire, England
mother
18111856
Birth: January 1811 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: 28 October 1856Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Marriage Marriage25 November 1828Manchester Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England
5 years
himself
18331909
Birth: 1833 23 22 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: December 1909Manchester, Lancashire, England
3 years
younger sister
1835
Birth: 1835 25 24 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death:
4 years
younger sister
18381838
Birth: 23 October 1838 29 27 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: December 1838Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England
1 year
younger sister
18391868
Birth: 24 October 1839 30 28 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: October 1868Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
6 years
younger brother
18451913
Birth: 1845 35 34 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: June 1913Prestwich, Manchester, Lancashire, England
2 years
younger brother
18471923
Birth: March 1847 37 36 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: March 1923Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Family with Mary Ann Gill
himself
18331909
Birth: 1833 23 22 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: December 1909Manchester, Lancashire, England
wife
18381882
Birth: 1838 44 39 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: June 1882Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Marriage Marriage6 September 1857Manchester Cathedral, Manchester, Lancashire, England
2 years
son
James Pennill 1859-1930.jpg
18591930
Birth: 26 December 1859 26 21 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: June 1930Manchester, Lancashire, England
18 months
daughter
18611923
Birth: 12 June 1861 28 23 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: March 1923Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England
21 months
son
18631863
Birth: 19 February 1863 30 25 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: 18 November 1863Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
20 months
son
18641909
Birth: 8 October 1864 31 26 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: March 1909Chorlton, Manchester, Lancashire, England
3 years
daughter
18671868
Birth: 14 September 1867 34 29 Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: September 1868Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire, England
3 years
son
18711935
Birth: 13 January 1871 38 33 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: March 1935Barton-upon-Irwell, Lancashire, England
17 months
daughter
18721952
Birth: 18 June 1872 39 34 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: 9 April 1952Oldham, Lancashire, England
2 years
daughter
18741949
Birth: September 1874 41 36 Manchester, Lancashire, England
Death: 8 August 1949West Failsworth, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Birth
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Birth of a sister
Address: Lord Street
Baptism of a sister
Birth of a brother
Birth of a brother
Baptism of a brother
Death of a mother
Cause: Fractured Skull due to Manslaughter
Burial of a mother
Marriage
Birth of a son
Birth of a daughter
Baptism of a daughter
Birth of a son
Address: 84 Medlock Street
Baptism of a son
Death of a son
Address: 84 Medlock Street
Cause: Scarlatina (Scarlet Fever)
Burial of a son
Birth of a son
Baptism of a son
Death of a father
Address: 43 Back Newbury Street
Cause: Bronchitis
Birth of a daughter
Baptism of a daughter
Death of a daughter
Death of a sister
Cause: Consumption
Burial of a sister
Birth of a son
Baptism of a son
Birth of a daughter
Baptism of a daughter
Birth of a daughter
Baptism of a daughter
Death of a wife
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Marriage of a son
Marriage of a daughter
Marriage of a son
Death of a son
Burial of a son
Address: Southern Cemetery
Death
Burial
Address: Philips Park Cemetery
Last change
21 March 202320:39:14
Author of last change: 7mikefh
Note

The Census for the 6 th June 1841 HO 107/583/1/41 for Hulme, Manchester, address unclear but probably Lower Cambridge Street, records James Penny age 9 years was the only son of John age 30 and Isabella Penny age 28, he had two sisters Sarah age 6 and Isabella age 1 year. On 28th October 1856 James's mother was killed by manslaughter.

The Census for 1851 HO 107/2220/811/17 will record the family living at No. 44, Boundary Street East, Hulme it will record JOHN penny as a Greengrocer and son James age 19 years a Shopkeepers helper. Copy of the census is not obtainable due to water damage of the original.

The marriage of James Penny to Mary Ann Gill on the 6th September 1857 at Manchester Cathedral entry No. 121 in the Register. After their marriage they both changed their surname to "Pennill" by an amalgation of Penny and Gill. It is understood that the name change was to avoid the nickname of "penny pinching" by customers to their greengrocery shop, however the reason might have been to avoid the stigma caused by the circumstances surrounding the death of his mother.

The marriage Certificate names James Penny (spelled Penney on the Certificate ) age 23 Bachelor and a Greengrocer of 84,Medlock Street, Hulme. John Penny the father is also named as a Greengrocer. Mary Ann Gill age 19, a Spinster of 15 Southern Street, Hulme, and her father John Gill, a Shoemaker. The witnesses to the marriage are Fredrick Johnson and Elizabeth Gill.

The Census for the 7th April 1861 RG9 2887 7 page 7 for No. 84, Medlock Street, Hulme lists James Pennill, age 27, Greengrocer, his wife Mary A Pennill , son James age 1year and a servant, Margaqret Hammond age 15.

The Census for the 2nd April 1871 RG 10/3974/ page 22 is for Withington Institution, Nell Lane Hospital; James Pennill age 37, born Manchester, occupation Hawker is person 9 on the record and he is listed as Lunatic. The 1871 census record for his wife and family has not yet been found.

The census for 3rd April 1881 RG 11/3925/4/ page 2 for No. 8 George Street, Hulme records James Pennill age 47, occupation Hawker, wife Mary Ann Pennill age 46, son James a Hawker 21, Martha a Tailoress 19, George Alfred a Hawker 16, John Henry 10, Mary Elizabeth 7, Margaret age 6

Census for 5th April 1891 RG12/ 3193/ / page 10 for 112 Great Jackson Street, Hulme: James Pennill, age 58, widower, occupation Self employed fishmonger, also Martha 27 Tailoress, George Alfred 26 self employed fishmonger, John Henry 20 self employed fishmonger, Mary Elizabeth 18 Tailoress, Margaret 16 Tailoress.

Census for 31st March 1901 RG 13/3705/90 page 3 for 112 Great Jackson Street, Hulme; James Pennill widower age 69 Fishmonger and greengrocer on own account, Mary Elizabeth age 28 shop assistant at home, Margaret age 26 shop assistant at home.

James Penny (originally James Penny ) died age 79 in December 1909

Note

1841 census Lord Street, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire

John PENNY Head M 30 Male Potato Dealer Lancashire
Isabella PENNY Wife M 25 Female Lancashire
James PENNY Son 9 Male Lancashire
Sarah PENNY Daur 6 Female Lancashire
Isabella PENNY Daur 1 Female Lancashire

1851 census Sage Street, St Matthew, Manchester, Lancashire

John PENNY Head M 40 Male Porter Manchester, Lancashire
Elizabeth PENNY Wife M 39 Female At Home Manchester, Lancashire
James PENNY Son S 18 Male Porter Manchester, Lancashire
Sarah PENNY Daur S 15 Female Cotton Weaver Manchester, Lancashire
Isabella PENNY Daur 11 Female At Home Manchester, Lancashire
John PENNY Son 5 Male At Home Manchester, Lancashire
George PENNY Son 4 Male At Home Manchester, Lancashire
Name of Elizabeth should be Isabella

1861 census 84 Medlock Street, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire

James PENNILL Head M 27 Male Greengrocer Manchester, Lancashire
Mary A PENNILL Wife M 23 Female Manchester, Lancashire
James PENNILL Son 1 Male Manchester, Lancashire
Margaret HAMMOND Servant S 15 Female House Servant Manchester, Lancashire
Mary Ann MARRS Boarder S 21 Female Tasle Maker Manchester, Lancashire

1871 census Chorlton Union Workhouse, Withington, Manchester, Lancashire

James PENNILL Inmate M 37 Male Hawker Manchester, Lancashire

1881 census 8 George Street, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire

James PENNILL Head M 47 Male Hawker Manchester, Lancashire
Mary Ann PENNILL Wife M 40 Female Manchester, Lancashire
James PENNILL Son S 21 Male Hawker Manchester, Lancashire
Martha PENNILL Daur S 19 Female Tailoress Manchester, Lancashire
George Alfred PENNILL Son 16 Male Hawker Manchester, Lancashire
John Henry PENNILL Son 10 Male Scholar Manchester, Lancashire
Mary Elizabeth PENNILL Daur 7 Female Scholar Manchester, Lancashire
Margaret PENNILL Daur 6 Female Scholar Manchester, Lancashire

1891 census 112 Great Jackson Street, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire

James PENNILL Head Widower 58 Male Fishmonger Manchester, Lancashire
Martha PENNILL Daur S 27 Female Tailoress Manchester, Lancashire
George A PENNILL Son S 26 Male Fishmonger Manchester, Lancashire
John H PENNILL Son S 20 Male Fishmonger Manchester, Lancashire
Mary E PENNILL Daur S 18 Female Tailoress Manchester, Lancashire
Margaret PENNILL Daur S 17 Female Tailoress Manchester, Lancashire

1901 census 112 Great Jackson Street, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire

James PENNILL Head Widower 69 Male Fishmonger & Greengrocer Manchester, Lancashire
Mary E PENNILL Daur S 28 Female Shop Assistant Manchester, Lancashire
Margaret PENNILL Daur S 26 Female Shop Assistant Manchester, Lancashire