Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great 1173–1240

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Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great, 1173–1240 (aged 67 years)

Name

Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great

Name: Llewelyn Ap /IORWERTH/ Llewelyn the Great
Surname: IORWERTH
Given names: Llewelyn Ap
Name suffix: Llewelyn the Great

Sex Male

Date differences

Family with parents
father	Links Birth: 1145 58 47 — Aberffraw Castle, Aberffraw, Anglsy, Wales Marriage: about 1163 Death: about 1184 Ancestral file number: 9BL9-S7 Unique identifier: 8229ECC73B1B3B448D5A3BAC0C6FCF1D68FD Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Margred Verch MADOG Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great Iorwerth Drwyndwn Ap OWAIN 1145–1184 Birth: 1145 58 47 — Aberffraw Castle, Aberffraw, Anglsy, Wales Death: about 1184
mother	Links Birth: about 1129 38 34 — Of Montgomeryshire, Wales Marriage: about 1163 Death: Ancestral file number: 91QG-MT Unique identifier: 8229ECC73B1B3B448D5A3BAC0C6FCF1D68FD Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Iorwerth Drwyndwn Ap OWAIN Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great Margred Verch MADOG 1129–… Birth: about 1129 38 34 — Of Montgomeryshire, Wales Death:
Marriage	Marriage — about 1163 —
11 years himself	Links Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Marriage: 1205 — England Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales Ancestral file number: GS56-CC Unique identifier: D899A5BB2DA0AA4AAE5773AD98DC813BE74B Unique identifier: 66D9B33CD7404345A29F34608EEC6DB63FD9 Unique identifier: 89924CF92BED9B4A83ED41AC679045807691 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Joan Princess Of ENGLAND Elen (Helen) Verch LLEWELYN Gwenllian Las Verch LLYWELYN Dafydd Ap LLYWELYN Margred Verch LLYWELYN Angharad Verch LLYWELYN Miss Verch LLYWELYN Susanna FAWR Family with spouse Tangwystl Verch LLYWARCH Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN Gruffudd Ap LLYWELYN Family with spouse Tegwared y Baiswen Ap LLYWELYN Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great 1173–1240 Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Family with Joan Princess Of ENGLAND
himself	Links Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Marriage: 1205 — England Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales Ancestral file number: GS56-CC Unique identifier: D899A5BB2DA0AA4AAE5773AD98DC813BE74B Unique identifier: 66D9B33CD7404345A29F34608EEC6DB63FD9 Unique identifier: 89924CF92BED9B4A83ED41AC679045807691 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Joan Princess Of ENGLAND Elen (Helen) Verch LLEWELYN Gwenllian Las Verch LLYWELYN Dafydd Ap LLYWELYN Margred Verch LLYWELYN Angharad Verch LLYWELYN Miss Verch LLYWELYN Susanna FAWR Family with spouse Tangwystl Verch LLYWARCH Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN Gruffudd Ap LLYWELYN Family with spouse Tegwared y Baiswen Ap LLYWELYN Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great 1173–1240 Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales
wife	Links Birth: 1188 21 — Of, London, Middlesex, England Marriage: 1205 — England Death: 3 April 1236 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales Burial: Llan-Faes, Dindaethwy, Anglesey, Wales Ancestral file number: 8XJ8-0X Unique identifier: D899A5BB2DA0AA4AAE5773AD98DC813BE74B Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great Elen (Helen) Verch LLEWELYN Gwenllian Las Verch LLYWELYN Dafydd Ap LLYWELYN Margred Verch LLYWELYN Angharad Verch LLYWELYN Miss Verch LLYWELYN Susanna FAWR Joan Princess Of ENGLAND 1188–1236 Birth: 1188 21 — Of, London, Middlesex, England Death: 3 April 1236 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Marriage	Marriage — 1205 — England
2 years daughter	Links Birth: about 1206 33 18 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: before 24 October 1253 — Of, Chester, Cheshire, England Marriage: about 1269 — Of, Kildrummy, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Ancestral file number: 91SQ-0V Unique identifier: FE593998BA703A48A6DBA561257B7A8C01B6 Unique identifier: 13F1AC5CC4376E4198A1246D05F85ACEA523 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Robert De QUINCY Joane QUINCY Hawise De QUINCY Anne De QUINCY Family with spouse Donald Earl Of MAR Marjory (Margaret) Of MAR Gratney (Gartnet) Earl Of MAR Duncan Of MAR Alexander Of MAR Isabell (Matilda) Of MAR Mary Of MAR Elen (Helen) Verch LLEWELYN 1206–1253 Birth: about 1206 33 18 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: before 24 October 1253 — Of, Chester, Cheshire, England
2 years daughter	Links Birth: about 1207 34 19 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: S2RC-3C Unique identifier: 1DB49A5601D911448CBEB13224786C648979 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse William De LACY Gwenllian Las Verch LLYWELYN 1207–… Birth: about 1207 34 19 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Death:
3 years son	Links Birth: about 1209 36 21 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Marriage: about 1231 Death: 25 February 1246 Ancestral file number: 9FTV-C8 Unique identifier: 01CA5EE33F7FB24E9937A6945BD4AF14C617 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Isabella De BRAOSE Dafydd Ap DAFYDD Dafydd Ap LLYWELYN 1209–1246 Birth: about 1209 36 21 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: 25 February 1246
2 years daughter	Links Birth: about 1210 37 22 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Marriage: 1219 Death: after 1263 — Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England Burial: Priory Church, Aconbury, Herefordshire, England Ancestral file number: 9FTV-FL Unique identifier: A653D3F975190D45BCDBCB343D04DEAE08F7 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse John De BREUSE John BRAOSE (BREUSE) William De BRAOSE (BREUSE) Llywelyn BRAOSE (BREUSE) Roger BRAOSE (BREUSE) Hugh BRAOSE (BREUSE) Richard De BRAOSE (BREUSE) Margred Verch LLYWELYN 1210–1263 Birth: about 1210 37 22 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: after 1263 — Clifford Castle, Herefordshire, England
3 years daughter	Links Birth: about 1212 39 24 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: 92D4-WV Unique identifier: B47ABB8228C6BD449CF3A54A1781AB3954A5 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Maelgwn Ieuanc (Fychan) Ap MAELGWN Angharad Verch LLYWELYN 1212–… Birth: about 1212 39 24 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death:
3 years daughter	Links Birth: about 1214 41 26 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: RKJQ-6N Unique identifier: 97881E85B0661D49BA6B82BD00CC6118E7DA Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse William CAENTWN Miss Verch LLYWELYN 1214–… Birth: about 1214 41 26 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death:
daughter	Links Death: Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Susanna FAWR …–… Death:

Family with Tangwystl Verch LLYWARCH
himself	Links Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Marriage: 1205 — England Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales Ancestral file number: GS56-CC Unique identifier: D899A5BB2DA0AA4AAE5773AD98DC813BE74B Unique identifier: 66D9B33CD7404345A29F34608EEC6DB63FD9 Unique identifier: 89924CF92BED9B4A83ED41AC679045807691 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Joan Princess Of ENGLAND Elen (Helen) Verch LLEWELYN Gwenllian Las Verch LLYWELYN Dafydd Ap LLYWELYN Margred Verch LLYWELYN Angharad Verch LLYWELYN Miss Verch LLYWELYN Susanna FAWR Family with spouse Tangwystl Verch LLYWARCH Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN Gruffudd Ap LLYWELYN Family with spouse Tegwared y Baiswen Ap LLYWELYN Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great 1173–1240 Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales
partner	Links Birth: about 1168 29 27 — Of, Rhos, Denbighshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: 91QG-KH Unique identifier: 66D9B33CD7404345A29F34608EEC6DB63FD9 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN Gruffudd Ap LLYWELYN Tangwystl Verch LLYWARCH 1168–… Birth: about 1168 29 27 — Of, Rhos, Denbighshire, Wales Death:
daughter	Links Birth: about 1205 32 37 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Marriage: before 1221 — Wales Marriage: 1230 — England Death: 1251 — Windsor, Berkshire, England Ancestral file number: GLCF-TX Unique identifier: 3E49896F2CB59E4A8F728A9C21F3538B6151 Unique identifier: 54BEDD4318A8F644B342727637092D67DD4F Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Ralph De MORTIMER Roger De MORTIMER Joan MORTIMER Hugh MORTIMER John De MORTIMER Peter De MORTIMER Isolda De MORTIMER Family with spouse Reginald De BRAOSE Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN 1205–1251 Birth: about 1205 32 37 — Of Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: 1251 — Windsor, Berkshire, England
3 years son	Links Birth: about 1207 34 39 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: 1 March 1244 Ancestral file number: S2RC-87 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Gruffudd Ap LLYWELYN 1207–1244 Birth: about 1207 34 39 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: 1 March 1244

Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great + … …
himself	Links Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Marriage: 1205 — England Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales Ancestral file number: GS56-CC Unique identifier: D899A5BB2DA0AA4AAE5773AD98DC813BE74B Unique identifier: 66D9B33CD7404345A29F34608EEC6DB63FD9 Unique identifier: 89924CF92BED9B4A83ED41AC679045807691 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Joan Princess Of ENGLAND Elen (Helen) Verch LLEWELYN Gwenllian Las Verch LLYWELYN Dafydd Ap LLYWELYN Margred Verch LLYWELYN Angharad Verch LLYWELYN Miss Verch LLYWELYN Susanna FAWR Family with spouse Tangwystl Verch LLYWARCH Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN Gruffudd Ap LLYWELYN Family with spouse Tegwared y Baiswen Ap LLYWELYN Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great 1173–1240 Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales
son	Links Birth: about 1192 19 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: S2RC-11 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Tegwared y Baiswen Ap LLYWELYN 1192–… Birth: about 1192 19 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death:

Events of close relatives
Birth	1173 28 44 Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Death of a father	Iorwerth Drwyndwn Ap OWAIN about 1184
Birth of a son	Tegwared y Baiswen Ap LLYWELYN about 1192 Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Marriage	Joan Princess Of ENGLAND — View this family 1205 (aged 32 years) England
Birth of a daughter	Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN about 1205 Of Caernarvonshire, Wales
Birth of a daughter	Elen (Helen) Verch LLEWELYN about 1206 Of Caernarvonshire, Wales
Birth of a daughter	Gwenllian Las Verch LLYWELYN about 1207 Of Caernarvonshire, Wales
Birth of a son	Gruffudd Ap LLYWELYN about 1207 Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Birth of a son	Dafydd Ap LLYWELYN about 1209 Of Caernarvonshire, Wales
Birth of a daughter	Margred Verch LLYWELYN about 1210 Of Caernarvonshire, Wales
Birth of a daughter	Angharad Verch LLYWELYN about 1212 Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Birth of a daughter	Miss Verch LLYWELYN about 1214 Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Marriage of a daughter	John De BREUSE — Margred Verch LLYWELYN — View this family 1219
Marriage of a daughter	Reginald De BRAOSE — Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN — View this family before 1221 Wales
Marriage of a daughter	Ralph De MORTIMER — Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN — View this family 1230 England
Marriage of a son	Dafydd Ap LLYWELYN — Isabella De BRAOSE — View this family about 1231
Death of a wife	Joan Princess Of ENGLAND 3 April 1236 Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Death of a mother	Margred Verch MADOG
Death	11 April 1240 (aged 67 years) Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Ancestral file number	GS56-CC
Unique identifier	97F24915BF39DE4E8523168411A661A50A50
Last change	16 December 2002 – 01:00:00

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Note	Having followed the various threads on this subject, is the following correct? Llywellyn Fawr (1194-1240) Married [1] Joan Plantagenet (c 1189-1236) Children: Gwladus Ddu (1206-1251) m[1] Reginald de Braose m[2] Ralph Mortimer Margaret m[1] John de Braose m[2] Walter de Clifford Angharad Dafydd (1208-1246) m Isabel de Braose Susanna Ellen (Helen) m[1] Malcolm, Earl of Fife m[2] Donald Married [2] Gwenllian of Brynffenigi Children: Helen m[1] John le Scot m[2] Robert de Quincey Gwenllian Mistress: Tangwystl ferch Llywarch Goch Child: Gruffydd (1196-1244) Graeme Wall Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk My genealogy website: http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/index.html Dave Utzinger posted on this based on the an article by William Addams Reitwiesner in The Genealogist, vol. 1, no. 1 (Spring 1980), pp. 80-95. This is his list: Descendants of Llywelyn ap Iorworth 1 Llywelyn ap Iorworth b: Abt. 1173 in Dolyddelan, Wales d: 11 April 1240 in Aberconway Abbey, Carnarvonshire, Wales . +Tangwystl verch Llwarch b: Abt. 1168 in of Rhos, Wales d: Bef. 1205 2 Gruffudd ap Llewellyn b: Bef. 1205 d: 01 March 1243/44 in London, ENG . +Senena ferch Caradog 2nd Wife of Gruffudd ap Llewellyn: . +Rhanullt 2nd Wife of Llywelyn ap Iorworth: . +Joan Plantagenet b: Abt. 1191 d: 02 February 1236/37 in Aber Palace, Carnarvon, Wales 2 Elen verch Llywelyn b: in Gwynedd, Wales d: Bef. 24 October 1253 . +John of Scotland b: 1207 m: 1222 d: Abt. 06 June 1237 2nd Husband of Elen verch Llywelyn: . +Robert de Quincey b: Abt. 1176 m: Aft. 06 June 1237 d: Abt. 1257 2 Dafydd ap Llywelyn b: Abt. 1208 d: 12 February 1245/46 in Aber . +Concubine 2nd Wife of Dafydd ap Llywelyn: . +Isabel de Braose b: Abt. 1215 m: Abt. 10 August 1230 d: Bef. 1248 3rd Wife of Llywelyn ap Iorworth: . +Unknown 2 Gwenllian of Wales d: 1281 . +William de Lacy 2 Angharad verch Llewelyn . +Maelgwn Fychan d: 1257 2 Tegwared y Baiswen . +Gwenllian ferch Ednyfed ap Cynwrig 2 Angharad verch Llywelyn . +Philip ap Ivor 2 Daughter verch Llywelyn . +William Caentwn 2 Gwladys Dhu of Wales b: Abt. 1194 in of Gwynedd, Wales d: 1251 in Windsor, BRK, ENG . +Reginald de Braose b: Abt. 1171 in Bramber, SSX, ENG m: 1215 d: Bet. 05 May 1227 - 09 June 1228 in Brecon, Breconshire, Wales 2nd Husband of Gwladys Dhu of Wales: . +Ralph de Mortimer b: 1190 in of Wigmore, HEF, ENG m: 1230 d: 06 August 1246 in Wigmore, HRT, ENG 2 Margred verch Llewellyn b: Abt. 1208 in Wales (North) d: 1268 . +John de Breuse b: Abt. 1198 m: Abt. 1220 d: Abt. 02 November 1232 in Bramber, SUS, ENG 2nd Husband of Margred verch Llewellyn: . +Walter III de Clifford b: Abt. 1186 in ENG m: Abt. 1232 in SSX, ENG d: Abt. 23 December 1263 in Clifford 2 Helen verch Llewellyn b: Abt. 1234 in of Wales . +Malcolm MacDuff b: Bef. 1228 d: 1266 2nd Husband of Helen verch Llewellyn: . +Donald de Mar d: Aft. 25 July 1297

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Having followed the various threads on this subject, is the following correct?

Llywellyn Fawr (1194-1240)
Married [1] Joan Plantagenet (c 1189-1236)

Children:

Gwladus Ddu (1206-1251) m[1] Reginald de Braose
m[2] Ralph Mortimer
Margaret m[1] John de Braose
m[2] Walter de Clifford
Angharad
Dafydd (1208-1246) m Isabel de Braose
Susanna
Ellen (Helen) m[1] Malcolm, Earl of Fife
m[2] Donald

Married [2] Gwenllian of Brynffenigi

Children:

Helen m[1] John le Scot
m[2] Robert de Quincey
Gwenllian

Mistress: Tangwystl ferch Llywarch Goch

Child: Gruffydd (1196-1244)

Graeme Wall Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk

My genealogy website:
http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/index.html

Dave Utzinger posted on this based on the an article by William Addams
Reitwiesner in The Genealogist, vol. 1, no. 1 (Spring 1980), pp. 80-95. This
is his list:

Descendants of Llywelyn ap Iorworth

1 Llywelyn ap Iorworth b: Abt. 1173 in Dolyddelan, Wales d: 11 April
1240 in Aberconway Abbey, Carnarvonshire, Wales
. +Tangwystl verch Llwarch b: Abt. 1168 in of Rhos, Wales d: Bef. 1205
2 Gruffudd ap Llewellyn b: Bef. 1205 d: 01 March 1243/44 in London,
ENG
. +Senena ferch Caradog
*2nd Wife of Gruffudd ap Llewellyn:
. +Rhanullt
*2nd Wife of Llywelyn ap Iorworth:
. +Joan Plantagenet b: Abt. 1191 d: 02 February 1236/37 in Aber
Palace, Carnarvon, Wales
2 Elen verch Llywelyn b: in Gwynedd, Wales d: Bef. 24 October
1253
. +John of Scotland b: 1207 m: 1222 d: Abt. 06 June 1237
*2nd Husband of Elen verch Llywelyn:
. +Robert de Quincey b: Abt. 1176 m: Aft. 06 June 1237 d: Abt. 1257
2 Dafydd ap Llywelyn b: Abt. 1208 d: 12 February 1245/46 in Aber
. +Concubine
*2nd Wife of Dafydd ap Llywelyn:
. +Isabel de Braose b: Abt. 1215 m: Abt. 10 August 1230 d: Bef. 1248
*3rd Wife of Llywelyn ap Iorworth:
. +Unknown
2 Gwenllian of Wales d: 1281
. +William de Lacy
2 Angharad verch Llewelyn
. +Maelgwn Fychan d: 1257
2 Tegwared y Baiswen
. +Gwenllian ferch Ednyfed ap Cynwrig
2 Angharad verch Llywelyn
. +Philip ap Ivor
2 Daughter verch Llywelyn
. +William Caentwn
2 Gwladys Dhu of Wales b: Abt. 1194 in of Gwynedd, Wales d: 1251 in
Windsor, BRK, ENG
. +Reginald de Braose b: Abt. 1171 in Bramber, SSX, ENG m: 1215
d: Bet. 05 May 1227 - 09 June 1228 in Brecon, Breconshire, Wales
*2nd Husband of Gwladys Dhu of Wales:
. +Ralph de Mortimer b: 1190 in of Wigmore, HEF, ENG m: 1230 d: 06
August 1246 in Wigmore, HRT, ENG
2 Margred verch Llewellyn b: Abt. 1208 in Wales (North) d: 1268
. +John de Breuse b: Abt. 1198 m: Abt. 1220 d: Abt. 02 November
1232 in Bramber, SUS, ENG
*2nd Husband of Margred verch Llewellyn:
. +Walter III de Clifford b: Abt. 1186 in ENG m: Abt. 1232 in SSX, ENG

d: Abt. 23 December 1263 in Clifford
2 Helen verch Llewellyn b: Abt. 1234 in of Wales
. +Malcolm MacDuff b: Bef. 1228 d: 1266
*2nd Husband of Helen verch Llewellyn:
. +Donald de Mar d: Aft. 25 July 1297