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Margred Verch MADOG, 1129–…

Name

Margred Verch MADOG

Name: Margred Verch /MADOG/
Surname: MADOG
Given names: Margred Verch

Sex Female

Date differences

Family with parents
father	Links Birth: about 1091 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: 1160 — Winchester, Hampshire, England Burial: St. Tysilio, Meifod, Montgomeryshire, Wales Ancestral file number: FJGT-7M Unique identifier: 9A17DA78C097454E9CC91301FDE30ECE2247 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Susanna Verch GRUFFYDD Margred Verch MADOG Owain Ap MADOG Iorwerth Ap MADOG Miss Verch MADOG Elise Ap MADOG Llewelyn Ap MADOG Owain Fychan Ap MADOG Gruffydd Maelor Ap MADOG Gwenllian Verch MADOG Efa Verch MADOG Madog Ap MAREDYDD 1091–1160 Birth: about 1091 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: 1160 — Winchester, Hampshire, England
mother	Links Birth: about 1095 40 30 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: FJGT-8S Unique identifier: 9A17DA78C097454E9CC91301FDE30ECE2247 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Madog Ap MAREDYDD Margred Verch MADOG Owain Ap MADOG Iorwerth Ap MADOG Miss Verch MADOG Elise Ap MADOG Llewelyn Ap MADOG Owain Fychan Ap MADOG Gruffydd Maelor Ap MADOG Gwenllian Verch MADOG Efa Verch MADOG Susanna Verch GRUFFYDD 1095–… Birth: about 1095 40 30 — Of, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death:
herself	Links Birth: about 1129 38 34 — Of Montgomeryshire, Wales Marriage: about 1163 Death: Ancestral file number: 91QG-MT Unique identifier: 8229ECC73B1B3B448D5A3BAC0C6FCF1D68FD Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Iorwerth Drwyndwn Ap OWAIN Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great Margred Verch MADOG 1129–… Birth: about 1129 38 34 — Of Montgomeryshire, Wales Death:
8 years younger brother	Links Birth: about 1136 45 41 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: R7TR-PM Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Owain Ap MADOG 1136–… Birth: about 1136 45 41 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death:
-11 months younger brother	Links Birth: about 1134 43 39 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: R7TR-NG Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Iorwerth Ap MADOG 1134–… Birth: about 1134 43 39 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death:
4 years younger sister	Links Birth: about 1137 46 42 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: R7TR-QS Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Miss Verch MADOG 1137–… Birth: about 1137 46 42 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death:
-9 years elder brother	Links Birth: about 1127 36 32 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: FJGT-DH Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Elise Ap MADOG 1127–… Birth: about 1127 36 32 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death:
-3 years elder brother	Links Birth: about 1123 32 28 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: 1160 Ancestral file number: FJGT-B5 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Llewelyn Ap MADOG 1123–1160 Birth: about 1123 32 28 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: 1160
3 years elder brother	Links Birth: about 1125 34 30 — Of, Mechoin, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: 1186 Ancestral file number: FJGT-CB Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Owain Fychan Ap MADOG 1125–1186 Birth: about 1125 34 30 — Of, Mechoin, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: 1186
-3 years elder brother	Links Birth: about 1121 30 26 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: 1191 Ancestral file number: FJGT-90 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Gruffydd Maelor Ap MADOG 1121–1191 Birth: about 1121 30 26 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: 1191
11 years younger sister	Links Birth: about 1131 40 36 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: FJGT-GT Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Gwenllian Verch MADOG 1131–… Birth: about 1131 40 36 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death:
3 years younger sister	Links Birth: about 1133 42 38 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death: Ancestral file number: FJGT-H1 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Efa Verch MADOG 1133–… Birth: about 1133 42 38 — Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales Death:

Family with Iorwerth Drwyndwn Ap OWAIN
husband	Links Birth: 1145 58 47 — Aberffraw Castle, Aberffraw, Anglsy, Wales Marriage: about 1163 Death: about 1184 Ancestral file number: 9BL9-S7 Unique identifier: 8229ECC73B1B3B448D5A3BAC0C6FCF1D68FD Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Margred Verch MADOG Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great Iorwerth Drwyndwn Ap OWAIN 1145–1184 Birth: 1145 58 47 — Aberffraw Castle, Aberffraw, Anglsy, Wales Death: about 1184
herself	Links Birth: about 1129 38 34 — Of Montgomeryshire, Wales Marriage: about 1163 Death: Ancestral file number: 91QG-MT Unique identifier: 8229ECC73B1B3B448D5A3BAC0C6FCF1D68FD Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Iorwerth Drwyndwn Ap OWAIN Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great Margred Verch MADOG 1129–… Birth: about 1129 38 34 — Of Montgomeryshire, Wales Death:
Marriage	Marriage — about 1163 —
11 years son	Links Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Marriage: 1205 — England Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales Ancestral file number: GS56-CC Unique identifier: D899A5BB2DA0AA4AAE5773AD98DC813BE74B Unique identifier: 66D9B33CD7404345A29F34608EEC6DB63FD9 Unique identifier: 89924CF92BED9B4A83ED41AC679045807691 Links Ancestors Compact tree Descendants Family book Fan chart Hourglass chart Interactive tree Pedigree Pedigree map Relationships Family with spouse Joan Princess Of ENGLAND Elen (Helen) Verch LLEWELYN Gwenllian Las Verch LLYWELYN Dafydd Ap LLYWELYN Margred Verch LLYWELYN Angharad Verch LLYWELYN Miss Verch LLYWELYN Susanna FAWR Family with spouse Tangwystl Verch LLYWARCH Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN Gruffudd Ap LLYWELYN Family with spouse Tegwared y Baiswen Ap LLYWELYN Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great 1173–1240 Birth: 1173 28 44 — Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales Death: 11 April 1240 — Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales

Events of close relatives
Birth	about 1129 38 34 Of Montgomeryshire, Wales
Birth of a sister	Gwenllian Verch MADOG about 1131 Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Birth of a sister	Efa Verch MADOG about 1133 Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Birth of a brother	Iorwerth Ap MADOG about 1134 Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Birth of a brother	Owain Ap MADOG about 1136 Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Birth of a sister	Miss Verch MADOG about 1137 Of, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Death of a maternal grandfather	Gruffydd Ap CYNAN 1137 Caernarvonshire, Wales
Death of a brother	Llewelyn Ap MADOG 1160
Death of a father	Madog Ap MAREDYDD 1160 Winchester, Hampshire, England
Death of a maternal grandmother	Angharad Verch OWAIN 1162
Marriage	Iorwerth Drwyndwn Ap OWAIN — View this family about 1163 (aged 34 years)
Birth of a son	Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great 1173 Aberffraw Castle, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Death of a husband	Iorwerth Drwyndwn Ap OWAIN about 1184
Death of a brother	Owain Fychan Ap MADOG 1186
Death of a brother	Gruffydd Maelor Ap MADOG 1191
Marriage of a son	Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great — Joan Princess Of ENGLAND — View this family 1205 England
Death of a son	Llewelyn Ap IORWERTH Llewelyn the Great 11 April 1240 Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Isaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales
Burial of a father	Madog Ap MAREDYDD St. Tysilio, Meifod, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Death of a mother	Susanna Verch GRUFFYDD
Death	yes
Ancestral file number	91QG-MT
Unique identifier	AB6F33E9C0719245A35BB1553F1836AC7B8C
Last change	5 February 2012 – 21:43:21 Author of last change: Danny

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Note	Hubert Walter, Archbishop of Canterbury, died 13 July 1205, which provides a definite terminus. The styling of Llywelyn Fawr as Prince of North Wales [princeps Norwalliae] could mean as early as 1194, when he removed his uncle Dafydd from power, or as late as after 1200 when he obtained control of the remainder of Gwynedd from his cousin Gruffydd. Perhaps if we can find more detail as to the career of Robert, bishop of Bangor and abbot of Bildewas, co. Salop & c., this time frame could be better defined. It is interesting to note that the issue has to do with the husband of 'M' [Margaret, mother of Llywelyn] and the issue of his relations with one 'Guladus' or Gwladys, a kinswoman of 'M'. While an Anglo-Welsh heritage is not ruled out for either woman, on the surface it would reinforce the indentification of Margaret with Margaret ferch Madog, daughter of Madog ap Maredudd of Powys (d. ca. 1160). John Therav3@aol.com

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Note

Hubert Walter, Archbishop of Canterbury, died 13 July 1205, which provides a definite terminus. The styling of Llywelyn Fawr as Prince of North Wales [princeps Norwalliae] could mean as early as 1194, when he removed his uncle Dafydd from power, or as late as after 1200 when he obtained control of the remainder of Gwynedd from his cousin Gruffydd. Perhaps if we can find more detail as to the career of Robert, bishop of Bangor and abbot of Bildewas, co. Salop & c., this time frame could be better defined.

It is interesting to note that the issue has to do with the husband of 'M' [Margaret, mother of Llywelyn] and the issue of his relations with one 'Guladus' or Gwladys, a kinswoman of 'M'. While an Anglo-Welsh heritage is not ruled out for either woman, on the surface it would reinforce the indentification of Margaret with Margaret ferch Madog, daughter of Madog ap Maredudd of Powys (d. ca. 1160).

John
Therav3@aol.com