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Geoffrey Prince Of ENGLAND, 11581186 (aged 27 years)

Name
Geoffrey Prince Of /ENGLAND/
Surname
ENGLAND
Given names
Geoffrey Prince Of
Family with parents
father
11331189
Birth: 5 March 1133 19 30 Le Mans, Sarthe, France
Death: 6 July 1189Chinon, Indre-Et-Loire, France
mother
11211204
Birth: 1121 22 18 Chateau de Belin, Bordeaux, Aquitaine, France
Death: 31 March 1204Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France
Marriage Marriage11 May 1152Bordeaux, Gironde, France
3 months
elder brother
11521156
Birth: 17 August 1152 19 31 Le Mans, France
Death: April 1156Wallingford Castle, Wallingford, Berkshire, England
3 years
elder brother
11551183
Birth: 28 March 1155 22 34 Bermandsey Palace, London, England
Death: 11 June 1183Chcateau De Mortel, Turenne, Aquitaine
21 months
elder sister
11561189
Birth: 1156 22 35 London, Middlesex, England
Death: 28 June 1189Brunswick, Germany
21 months
elder brother
11571199
Birth: 13 September 1157 24 36 Beaumont Palace, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Death: 6 April 1199Chalus, France
13 months
himself
11581186
Birth: 23 September 1158 25 37 England
Death: 19 August 1186Paris, France
2 years
younger brother
11601160
Birth: about 1160 26 39 Of, England
Death: about 1160Infant
3 years
younger sister
11621214
Birth: 13 October 1162 29 41 Domfront, Normandie
Death: 25 October 1214Las Huelgas, Burgos, Spain
3 years
younger sister
11651199
Birth: October 1165 32 44 Angers, France
Death: 4 September 1199Rouen, Normandie
15 months
younger brother
11661216
Birth: 24 December 1166 33 45 Kings Manor House, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
Death: 19 October 1216Newark, Nottinghamshire, England
Father’s family with Annabel BALLIOL
father
11331189
Birth: 5 March 1133 19 30 Le Mans, Sarthe, France
Death: 6 July 1189Chinon, Indre-Et-Loire, France
stepmother
11531204
Birth: about 1153 48 43 England
Death: 31 March 1204
Marriage Marriage18 May 1153Unmd
Father’s family with Rosamond De CLIFFORD
father
11331189
Birth: 5 March 1133 19 30 Le Mans, Sarthe, France
Death: 6 July 1189Chinon, Indre-Et-Loire, France
stepmother
11361176
Birth: about 1136 23 18 Of Clifford Castle, Clifford, Herefordshire, England
Death: about 1176Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England
Marriage Marriage(not Married)
half-brother
11731225
Birth: about 1173 39 37 Of, England
Death: 7 March 1225England
Father’s family with an unknown individual
father
11331189
Birth: 5 March 1133 19 30 Le Mans, Sarthe, France
Death: 6 July 1189Chinon, Indre-Et-Loire, France
Marriage MarriageUnmd
half-brother
11591217
Birth: about 1159 25 Of, England
Death: about 1217
10 years
half-brother
11681217
Birth: about 1168 34 Wales
Death: about 1217Fountains Abbey, Ripon, Yorkshire, England
Father’s family with Ykenai Or Hikenai Concubine Of ENGLAND
father
11331189
Birth: 5 March 1133 19 30 Le Mans, Sarthe, France
Death: 6 July 1189Chinon, Indre-Et-Loire, France
stepmother
1131
Birth: about 1131Of, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Death:
Marriage MarriageUnmd
half-brother
11511212
Birth: about 1151 17 20 Of, Westminster, Middlesex, England
Death: 18 December 1212Notredameduparc, Seine-Maritime, France
Mother’s family with Louis VII King Of FRANCE
stepfather
11191180
Birth: 1119 38 27 Reims, Champagne, France
Death: 18 September 1180Paris, Isle De France, France
mother
11211204
Birth: 1121 22 18 Chateau de Belin, Bordeaux, Aquitaine, France
Death: 31 March 1204Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou-Charentes, France
Marriage Marriage22 July 1137Bordeaux, Aquitaine, France
9 years
half-sister
11451198
Birth: 1145 26 24 France
Death: 11 March 1198
6 years
half-sister
Family with Constance Countess Of BRETAGNE
himself
11581186
Birth: 23 September 1158 25 37 England
Death: 19 August 1186Paris, France
wife
11661201
Birth: 12 June 1166 38 12 Of, Bretagne, France
Death: 31 August 1201Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, France
Marriage MarriageJuly 1181
4 years
daughter
11841241
Birth: 1184 25 17 Of, France
Death: 10 August 1241Bristol Castle, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
3 years
son
11871203
Birth: 30 April 1187 28 20 Nantes, Loire-Atlantique, France
Death: 3 April 1203Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France
-15 months
daughter
1185
Birth: about 1185 26 18 Of, France
Death: Dy
Birth
Birth of a half-brother
Birth of a brother
Death of a brother
Birth of a sister
Birth of a sister
Birth of a brother
Birth of a half-brother
Death of a paternal grandmother
Birth of a half-brother
Marriage
Death of a brother
Birth of a daughter
Birth of a daughter
Burial of a mother
Death
19 August 1186 (aged 27 years)
Birth of a son
Burial
Ancestral file number
Unique identifier
81BAB1429E4FD5459C7F3104D1924E285EDB
Last change
16 December 200201:00:00
Note

The best thing the Constance theory has going for it is drama. It would make
a good movie. Joan was born somewhere around 1187/1188. Constance was
carrying Geoffrey's child in 1186 when Geoffrey was killed. The child, the
ill-fated Arthur, was born posthumous. This is the same Arthur, nephew of
John, that John allegedly murdered. He had to do penance for his part in the
act. So -- if Constance were also Joan's mother, Arthur was Joan's
stepbrother and also a stepson to John! Also, Henry II forced Constance to
remarry after the death of Geoffrey to one of his favorites, Randulph de
Blundeville, Earl of Chester. One could speculate that the reason she needed
to marry a man that outlived her by 31 years is that she was pregnant and
needed a husband, but the chronology is very tight, as Henry died in 1189
shortly after forcing the match. Great movie material, but it seems a little
doubtful.

The best thing we can learn from this is that Joan's papal decree shows that
no one wanted her to know who her mother really was. It was a secret then and
has remained that way through the ages.

All we can learn from John's whereabouts was that he was in both France and
England at the time Joan was likely conceived. It looks as though the
identity of Clementia will be a mystery for a very long time.

I was hoping we had something new with the land transfers and the wife of
Joan's custodian being named Clemence, but there are too many possible
interpretations.

-Ken
KHF333@aol.com